{"id":6518,"date":"2024-01-18T12:07:01","date_gmt":"2024-01-18T12:07:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/?post_type=in-conversation&#038;p=6518"},"modified":"2024-06-20T01:35:48","modified_gmt":"2024-06-20T01:35:48","slug":"2023-year-in-review","status":"publish","type":"in-conversation","link":"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/2023-year-in-review\/","title":{"rendered":"2023: The Year of #HowWeListen Live: In Conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-1 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>#HowWeListen Live: In Conversation is a live event series focused on demystifying music ecosystem topics for music creators and their teams of today. On the last Tuesday of each month, Byta founder Marc Brown interviews a guest from within the music ecosystem about a topic falling into the guest\u2019s area of expertise. Each instalment of #HowWeListen Live: In Conversation is free, live on Zoom, open and accessible to all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This past year we had eight outstanding conversations that ran the gamut from publishing to PR, and festival curators to playlisting experts, insights from deep within the global music ecosystem. Below are just a few quotes from this year\u2019s events. Jump in and listen to or read more, each of these conversations is a miniature masterclass.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns pad-60-tb grid--center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/podcast\/putting-artists-first-music-publishing-for-independent-creators\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"590\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/hwl_28_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6522 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/hwl_28_thumb.jpg 590w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/hwl_28_thumb-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/hwl_28_thumb-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/hwl_28_thumb-500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/hwl_28_thumb-120x120.jpg 120w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 590px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 590\/590;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/podcast\/putting-artists-first-music-publishing-for-independent-creators\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Simon Pursehouse<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">Global Director of Music Services (Sentric Music)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u201cNow what&#8217;s the difference between performance and mechanical income? Performance income is for every single time your track is broadcast: radio, TV gig, whatever. Mechanical income is, every single time, the track that you&#8217;ve written is reproduced. So a CD or vinyl or streaming also counts, even a TV program. So for example, if you get a track on a TV show, you get one mechanical payment, because that&#8217;s the commitment of the music to the tape, the reproduction of it. You also get a performance royalty every single time that episode is broadcast. Every time someone streams one of your tracks that generates a mechanical payment as well. A stream generates a macro payment, of your micropayment 80% of that goes to the record label or the digital distributor or whoever owns the masters. The remaining 20% is the money generated for the sunrise of that track: 50% performance and 50% mechanical. Finally, when it comes to synch: never, ever work with a company where you have to pay to submit your music for sync opportunities. To that end, one of the first people who will be queuing up to work with you, once you are ready is probably going to be a lawyer.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/lara-baker\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"590\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/hwl_27_thumb.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6412 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/hwl_27_thumb.png 590w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/hwl_27_thumb-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/hwl_27_thumb-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/hwl_27_thumb-500x500.png 500w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/hwl_27_thumb-120x120.png 120w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 590px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 590\/590;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/lara-baker\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lara Baker<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">General Manager, UK &amp; IE (FUGA)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u201cOne of the things that bugs me is the music industry gender pay gap. It\u2019s different in other countries but in the UK any company that employs over 250 people has to publicly declare its gender pay gap figures each year. In the music industry, that means that only major companies with over 250 employees have to comply, so it\u2019s not super representative. What we can see from the stats is that the gender pay gap isn\u2019t closing that much, and a few big companies have wider pay gaps today than they did in the past. We are seeing lots of women getting promoted to leadership positions, but it takes a long time for these actions to filter through into systemic and measurable change when it comes to things like pay. It\u2019s also important to note that most of the music companies are smaller than that and therefore don\u2019t need to report on it, so we don\u2019t know. There are also ethnicity pay gaps that don\u2019t need to be reported on legally at all, so we have no data about that. It goes beyond the actual gap, this needs to be thought of in a much bigger sense. There needs to be things like more family-friendly policies for families and caregivers, and changes in recruitment to remove bias. There also needs to be better training and education for managers and leaders within companies so that they can focus on change and inclusivity.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns pad-60-tb grid--center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-3 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/daniel-seligman\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"964\" height=\"964\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6233 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main.png 964w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main-500x500.png 500w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/hwl_26-main-120x120.png 120w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 964px) 100vw, 964px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 964px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 964\/964;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/daniel-seligman\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Daniel Seligman<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">Creative Director &amp; Co-founder (POP Montreal) \/ Artist Manager (Danagement)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI think music festivals and conferences are amazing opportunities, but you need to take advantage of the opportunity to showcase. So you can\u2019t just show up and play your show, you have to sign up for panels and try to connect with industry people that are in attendance. You can also connect with all the other artists and build a network. Everyone wants the golden ticket, but the reality is that it\u2019s a lot of work and you have to resonate and work on building your fanbase. You have to hustle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You have to believe in what you\u2019re doing and develop your career in connection with your audience. Whether that\u2019s making records traditionally, starting a Patreon, or going on tour \u2013 you have to find out who and where your audience is and how to connect with them. You also need to have a strategy when it comes to showcases \u2013 you have to make the effort to understand what\u2019s happening and who the key players are. Most people in the music industry are passionate, so if you\u2019re not then it\u2019ll be hard to get to the hustle. My main piece of advice: Find what you\u2019re passionate about and the hustle will follow.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/live-in-conversation-andee-connors\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"590\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/hwl_25_thumb.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6139 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/hwl_25_thumb.png 590w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/hwl_25_thumb-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/hwl_25_thumb-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/hwl_25_thumb-500x500.png 500w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 590px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 590\/590;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/live-in-conversation-andee-connors\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Andee Connors<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">Senior Manager: Creator &amp; Catalog Services (Pandora \/ Sirius XM)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHonestly, I think that being a musician or an artist in 2023 is so much more challenging than it was. Every platform functions differently \u2013 it\u2019s a lot of stuff to remember! I don\u2019t think it\u2019s that people aren\u2019t informed. It is a full-time job just to learn all of the respective platforms. The accessibility that makes it so appealing to be a music fan makes it that much harder to stand out as an artist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From an artist\u2019s perspective, there are so many options that it\u2019s hard to keep up with. In terms of consumers, it doesn\u2019t matter how you support artists, just that you are supporting your favourite artists!\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns pad-60-tb grid--center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-4 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/may-mahmoudi-big-dada\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"590\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/hwl_24_thumb.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6083 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/hwl_24_thumb.png 590w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/hwl_24_thumb-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/hwl_24_thumb-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/hwl_24_thumb-500x500.png 500w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 590px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 590\/590;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/may-mahmoudi-big-dada\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">May Mahmoudi<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">A&amp;R (Big Dada Recordings \/ Just Isn\u2019t Music Publishing \/ Ninja Tune)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u201cI think a small label would be a great move. You might not get a massive advance, but a small label is often the best ecosystem to start growing in. That was kind of my story, I was just a DJ who would play shows. I ended up releasing a mixtape with a really small, well-respected underground label. Through releasing a record with them I put out a critically acclaimed mixtape that was covered by a bunch of media and all that.&nbsp; It was literally because of that first release and releasing it in the way we did that I got the attention that I did! If I had released that project on Ninja Tune, it would have been competing with so many other projects that people were focused on. A small label that has this cult fanbase and only releases a few records per year, people are paying attention to them. Word of mouth is really important in that space. If your name is not out there already, you should go small because you can get lost if you try to go too big too quickly.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/obinna-agwu-horus-music-nigeria\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"590\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/hwl_22_thumb.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5949 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/hwl_22_thumb.png 590w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/hwl_22_thumb-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/hwl_22_thumb-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/hwl_22_thumb-500x500.png 500w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 590px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 590\/590;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/obinna-agwu-horus-music-nigeria\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Obinna Agwu<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">A&amp;R Executive (Horus Music, Nigeria)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\">\u201cIn Nigeria, the younger musicians are more tech-savvy and calculated in their approach to releasing their music these days. They realize that they can gather and gain deeper insights about their fans from the numbers, and the metrics. I notice that a lot of the younger artists think hard about music streaming. They are very open to learning more about and better understanding the technology around streaming. Some have even come to understand how long it\u2019s going to take to move their careers forward, they have the patience and confidence to keep going. The artists who win here are the ones who understand that this is going to be a lifelong journey. They just take it slow and are enjoying the journey. Sure some people might blow up \u201covernight\u201d, but that\u2019s not a reality for most artists. People need to think hard about who they are and what they want to do with their life and then lean into it and work hard.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns pad-60-tb grid--center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-5 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/mike-warner-work-hard-playlist-hard\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"590\" height=\"590\" data-src=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/hwl_22_thumb.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5908 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/hwl_22_thumb.png 590w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/hwl_22_thumb-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/hwl_22_thumb-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/hwl_22_thumb-500x500.png 500w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 590px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 590\/590;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-large-font-size\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/in-conversation\/mike-warner-work-hard-playlist-hard\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mike Warner<\/a><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-left has-medium-font-size\">Author \/ Founder (Work Hard Playlist Hard)<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThis comes up a lot in conversations. People ask me what the most important thing they should do is when they have an upcoming release. For me, and I\u2019m, of course, talking about the playlist side, the most important thing to do is go to your artist pages on Spotify &amp; Amazon and pitch your release. Lots of people get frustrated. They say they\u2019ve done it before but haven\u2019t gotten onto playlists. However, there\u2019s so much more to this submission process than just getting on a playlist on release day.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Spotify has gone in the direction of personalized playlists within its algorithm. When they ask you what the mood, genre and instruments used are when you submit it, all of that information is then permanently attached to that song. Yes \u2013 it\u2019s being pitched for potential consideration but it also allows it to be delivered to specific people. By filling out this form you\u2019re making sure that your music is going to reach the right listener. Also with Spotify, by submitting music at least 7 days before release day, it\u2019ll go into the release radar playlist. This makes it directly available to everyone who follows you or the artist. That\u2019s a win in and of itself.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For Amazon, one of their benefits is that they\u2019ll send out a push notification to people who have enabled notifications. So just by filling out those two forms you\u2019ll potentially reach people in various listening modes. The other thing I really want to add with Spotify is that they don\u2019t playlist most people. Only 5 of the 28 songs my band submitted ever made it onto other playlists. Our biggest driver of streams on Spotify has always been Discover Weekly. 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