{"id":260,"date":"2019-07-24T02:02:42","date_gmt":"2019-07-24T02:02:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/howwelisten\/interview\/howwelisten-patrick-ross-music-ally\/"},"modified":"2021-03-26T22:21:53","modified_gmt":"2021-03-26T22:21:53","slug":"patrick-ross","status":"publish","type":"interview","link":"https:\/\/byta.com\/howwelisten\/interview\/patrick-ross\/","title":{"rendered":"Patrick Ross"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Who are you?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Patrick Ross<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Where are you based?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>On a boat called Holly, on Regents Canal, in London, England<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Where do you work? What do you do?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m the Senior Vice President, Digital Strategy for <a href=\"http:\/\/musically.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Music Ally<\/a>. I educate the industry on all things digital marketing as it relates to music, constantly in front of folks spreading the good news of digital. I also work with artists and labels to help them better connect with their audience. And sometimes I even write for our publication, but usually I just talk and someone else quotes me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What are you listening to?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rubendawnson.lnk.to\/openletter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ruben Dawnson<\/a>, a former student of mine from <a href=\"https:\/\/limpimusic.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">LIMPI<\/a>. He\u2019s awesome. Oh, and also The Grateful Dead. Deadhead for life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How do you discover new music?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Apple Music does a good job of telling me what\u2019s out. There\u2019s the occasional well done Instagram Story ad that piques my interest, like it did with the band <a href=\"https:\/\/www.parcelsmusic.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Parcels<\/a>. I also hear about a lot of stuff from our <a rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/musically.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/Sandbox218-EOY-47927645739-awal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Sandbox<\/a> publication, which covers all kinds of great digital campaigns. And then of course there\u2019s artists I follow talking things up on social media and email.<br>On the latter I\u2019m always looking for acts doing things outside of the usual suspects. I\u2019m not a Spotify person, so those playlists are kind of meaningless to me. And Apple Music is far more about presenting albums than transient playlists. What I really look for is artists taking a leaf from a <a rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/musically.com\/2019\/03\/21\/dealing-with-the-dry-streams-paradox-in-the-playlists-era\/\" target=\"_blank\">recent article<\/a> (and <a rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/musically.com\/2019\/05\/23\/how-can-labels-and-musicians-avoid-the-dry-streams-paradox-in-2019\/\" target=\"_blank\">panel in NY<\/a> at our <a rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/sandboxsummitnyc.com\" target=\"_blank\">Sandbox Summit<\/a> conference) that we\u2019ve been talking about. <a rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/musically.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/Sandbox224-62916028.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">The Dry Streams Paradox<\/a>, as we call it. The idea is that simple playlisting alone is not going to create a sustainable artist-fan relationship. So I\u2019m always on the lookout for artists doing interesting things to stay connected with me, and fans at large.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What formats do you usually listen to? LP, CD, Cassette, Digital, Streaming Services and why?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>My daily listening is usually done on Apple Music. (I also still have iTunes Match that keeps all my more obscure collection available on the go.) At home I listen to vinyl, but only buy records I really love, and these days, have fallen in love with digitally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Where do you do most of your music listening?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I do a lot of travelling these days. (Recently realised I was on 9 flights in the span of 7 days. \ud83d\udeeb\ud83d\udeec\ud83d\udeeb\ud83d\udeec\ud83d\udeeb\ud83d\udeec&#8230;) So a lot of listening on airplanes, airports, etc. There\u2019s a Panda Bear album, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9t9zg0oeIKw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Person Pitch<\/a>, I listen to on every takeoff. It\u2019s been putting me to sleep in-flight for over a decade.<br>Commuting of course, gotta have something to drown out the noise on the bus.<br>At work we have a Sonos on our boat, so we can all share what we\u2019re digging. (As well as play some key \u201cyacht rock\u201d playlists from <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/playlist\/37i9dQZF1DXb3m918yXHxA?si=_OxwUHUMTJ67RT0DMrsfsQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spotify<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/music.apple.com\/gb\/playlist\/yacht-rock-essentials\/pl.1870421bdeb74580831f17505e5d32d9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Music<\/a> for our obligatory \u201cbubbly booze\u201d on deck sessions in the summer.)<br>And at home it\u2019s all about my vinyl collection. Drop that needle and let it play.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How do find and listen to pre-release music?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>If it\u2019s an artist I am really into, there will often be an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/series\/98679384\/first-listen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NPR First Listen<\/a>. And yes, we do often get stuff through from the artists we work with pre-release. Usually they are sending around a Soundcloud link.<br>I was teaching in Lillehammer, Norway for most of last year, and got a lot of stuff coming my way from the very talented students. They use <a href=\"https:\/\/auddly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Auddly<\/a> as a place to manage their song rights, so I get a fair few links from there for my listening pleasure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What are your frustrations with listening to music digitally? Any benefits?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>When listening to stuff digitally, that\u2019s not released, it can be challenging. I get a fair few links in emails. (I also send a fair few, usually what I am passed.) If I actually love something, being able to download is a plus, as I can add it to my iTunes library and listen over Apple Music. Private Soundclouds can be annoying, especially because I can\u2019t play them on the office Sonos. Also, I inevitably end up losing them, as you always need the link to get back to them.<br>As for general digital music, as mentioned a few times I use Apple Music. It\u2019s basically the same experience I\u2019ve had with iTunes for years, so very familiar. It works for me. Since relocating to the UK a decade or so ago, I\u2019ve been mainly digital. Yes, I did finally bring my records over, and do love that format best, but as I\u2019m on the go so much I love having my library available anywhere. As a teenager I took all my 400 CD\u2019s with me wherever I went. Now I just need my phone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How do you keep track of everything you are listening to?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Apple Music does a good job of keeping things in a \u201cRecently Added\u201d list. It\u2019s what you initially see when you navigate your library on the app. (And it\u2019s far more exhaustive on desktop.) They also do a good job of surfacing your favourites to you, both by showing what you have in heavy rotation and by surfacing tracks that you know and love.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Do you tip other people off to new music? How?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I have tried things, like music discovery \/ sharing app <a href=\"http:\/\/laylo.fm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Laylo<\/a>, but find some of the best ways are still the old ways. Mine tends to be either directly messaging friends \/ family about what I think is good. That, and continuously loading up the office stereo with things I am digging.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Anything you want to \u201cpromote\u201d?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Since beginning writing this and finishing writing this, Music Ally has started managing our first artist. He\u2019s called <a href=\"https:\/\/rubendawnson.lnk.to\/WHTTD\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ruben Dawnson<\/a>. His latest track \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/rubendawnson.lnk.to\/WHTTD\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">What Happened to the Days?<\/a>\u201d is just great, and getting some Spotify love in Scandinavia. He\u2019s also got a great little <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=BV0NiZKPNMU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">video<\/a> for it. 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